Thats why I said it comes down to boundaries, integrity, and character. Excuses galore. Again, I understand this journey is about putting energy into me and not him however I am a person that needs to process everything. Im certain you are being well advised by your attorneys and accountants so you have the hardest part covered, your business and your financials. Not to mention if she wants to immigrate to here eventually, shed already be on file and not in a good way. Flipped out when I brought up how a divorce would go down and indicated one or two outcomes then he shouted I knew you would fuck me over! And stormed out. What just happened? If Im good? I asked if he was in love with her and he said YES I think so. He is having a bad day and its your fault!!! But I cannot begin to understand it b/c my mind doesnt think that way. Take care of you..listen to your heart. She could have just packed and left us and never looked back. Some people dont want saving and thats their experience. Years ago there were so many rituals to grief which I believed helped the grievers set the pace for their grief, i.e. Next, you must take care of your physical self. If you suggest something shot down. No to IC, no to MC, theyve done too much damage, ILYBINILWY, all of it. I lost 16 lbs in 2 weeks if that tells you anything about my adrenal system at the time. Narcissism is selfishness in its purest form. I dont buy that its a MLC so it just happens. So as you can see I really could write a book. My story is all through this thread. Try and get him to feel comfortable even talking to you, and NOT running away. Its just sometimes too late to turn back. Its a bitter pill to swallow when you come to terms that we hooked our wagons up with a narcissist or sociopath. Theres no users manual for this affair crap. TH: 9 months prior to DDay I screamed I wanted a divorce he was making me miserable. After that you can work on your personal relationship. But it took 2 years into recovery for him to get it. Repeat my exwife was the one that ran away from me and our son. They make no sense. Im glad you are taking care of you but I love reading your posts. The daily mission is to keep on top of my emotions. But summing it up its a disaster and Im about to be divorced. I love your authenticity and your realness and your courage to be yourself. Out of patience I agreed b/c I finally realize he doesnt love me. Yep I went in. I was working around the house on a project. ???? It is his job to make himself happy or figure out why he is not.

Thats why he threatened to quit the business. Since Satori did not breed on our expectation / unspoken demand (and even though GoldenCHild did not want children yet) we endorse Satori being punished for no reason because of this. TH Ill leave you with that thought. It occurs when an unhappy wife suddenly divorces her spouse without warning, which opens up a lot of questions. They pick up speed and BAM! TheFirstWife, Thanks so much for the detailed breakdown. You are def in my good thoughts daily. Maybe Im just stubborn as hell. Making me want him, beg etc, punishment. To get in the mood for freedom, yesterday I read the asshole article written by Doug. its good to know that something do minor gets him twisted b/c it is one less thing he can torture you with. Basically the second he was out the door, he was 100% done, no explanation given no interest nor regard for me or my wellbeing just nothing. I think it will help. So painful. In my case I had also recently lost two family members both very close to me, one of whom I nursed daily for five months until their final breath and so my Hs abandonment of me for his A partner was the final straw to kick the anxiety and depression into high gear. It was all MY fault. You can do so much better. UGH. JTK Shes also a big fat narcissist.

I agree with you he most likely feels he has now gone too far and is stubbornly refusing to R for no real reason than as you say the hole he has dug himself. First off, I do not write words so that they may be just glossed over in a hurried fashion. I am feeling more empowered but Im worried if he gets nastier or loses financially it will de-volve. Really no guts. She also called 911, declaring in a frantic voice that she had been kidnapped and sexually assaulted by a Hispanic man and a Caucasian woman in their 40s driving a blue van. Ill finish later. I dont know what it means but I sense its more to do with him and guilt getting past his own guilt more than anything. Cant wait to hear about your trip. Not sure if anyone has noticed this? That was a perfect summation of the MLC and label / diagnosis conundrum TryingHard. "Runaway Bride" Exhibits Trauma Symptoms Case Highlights Trauma's Impact on Future Relationships and the Need for Resolution Theresa Burke, Ph.D Just about everyone has been talking about Jennifer Wilbanks, a 32- year-old medical assistant from Atlanta, who had been scheduled to get married last month in front of 600 guests and 28 attendants. Cheaters do it but so do BS. I hope in some little way my story helped you. Grief over the loss of a marriage or relationship I believe is more intense. My grandfathers sister, bless her heart, was kind to the core and forgiving her own mothers foul behavior because of what she knew her own mother went through. Let me know. Both really good books with great information that will validate A. I believe if you and Doug and Linda didnt want swearing on their site theyd have said so long ago. I believe you guys are the best of people because of it. He said it twice about MC but I knocked him back. Affairs may happen at a certain time of a mans life but that age certainly doesnt cause an MLC. He doesnt think he has done anything wrong (SMH) so I doubt he will entertain MC or IC. Now, though, when I start thinking about RED FLAGS just before the affair and during? And yes even the most amicable of spouses become rather mean and manipulative during an affair. So I guess that is the closest I will get to remorse. I wanted to be alone. I cant say all the conversation was satisfactory.

Now, I didnt throw his clothes on the front steps..I just sort of went into shock. I left but I didnt go home. What is wrong with you??. Not perfect but at least trying. Just like the name sounds, this is an undercover narcissist. All i know is I exploded in anger and he has worked for 4 years making things better and trying to make amends. Its not renege. The wedding is the point at which the bride and groom are expected to relinquish many options freely and are supposed to settle for one. Sadly, I know this all too well. He was trying to soften me up. by several of our posts on this thread. October 10, 2006 Wilbanks filed a lawsuit against her ex-fianc for $500,000, claiming it is her share of a home the ex-fianc purchased with the proceeds to a book deal he negotiated for them when she was medicated, plus. In the end he either gives up the OW and works on reconciling with you or there will be a divorce, right? Her husband merely said, Its over. And she replied that they would be eating chicken if he no longer liked fish. I apologise unreservedly if you are offended by my occasional use of profanity in my posts. Good kids, pretty house, good marriage: an affair in our relationship? To do unto others as theyd have others do unto them even. Do not let your H blame you for his A. I dont know if I could ever reconcile with someone who just disappears like that. Runaway Bride Syndrome & The Hidden Treasures. I dont quite frankly care if this thimble mind is a threat to themselves. Besides you are no where near dealing with whatever power struggles you have or dont have in your marriage. Dont forget your own power. Instead of Ambien I used Melatonin for a while. Lets just say for now between my sisters giving me 4 xanax and 2 ambien and I still didnt sleep matter of fact got in my car and drove, there may or may not have been some B & E and destruction of property!!! It gets easier even though the package itself hasnt changed.. Runaway Husband by Vikki Stark was the most helpful book that I have read during my situation. Dont worry about the labels. Im not happy. Said he had a bad day. Luckily the business owes me a small amount of money so Im going to start my new little personal nest egg. I only read this blog, Betrayed Wives Club ame Chumplady (her moto is dump a cheater gain a life so read at your own risk). She doesnt remember most of the crap she spewed out to me during her A. A new yoga routine emerged. No, affairs can and do happen at any age. But there must be a bunch of things running that he has kept hidden from me, to have engaged in an exit affair and to be a runaway as well. He couldnt understand that I didnt trust him to take care of me financially. Thats precious. FIL is now spinning the narrative that things were bad between us long before the A. I cant tell you how many times I asked myself why are you doing this to yourself! If you remove your permission you will agitate the CS. I know how hard it is. The calm-grounded-analytical me wanted to ask you guys something I came across regarding communication when peoples communication styles are different and where one person over-communicates (me) and one person withholds communications (H). My plan was suck it up for 90 days to get some money in my own name to survive. That is until the moment of impact.

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I was prepared to forgive and work through anything with my H, however as time has gone on and Hs treatment of me has been less than kind. The "minimergency" kits ($16) include fixes for absolutely everything that might go wrong short of "runaway bride" syndrome. Not sure whether it has any effect but I feel better for not being put through the grinder on any given moment. But again, thanks for the pearls of wisdom. That could be tricky. But they are confident a solid back-up or perhaps several back-ups exist otherwise they would not leave. So I was in a weakened moment and decided he had one month (my own internal timeline) to turn this around. SI- I wish that I would have found this site right after D-day. Physically sick. Divorce is the finality of the marriage. Ill throw an F bomb for you any time. I dont know what that is right now. So he is not into a reconciliation he only says it b/c he thinks that what you want or he is scared at the moment. Along with the hardened heart and nasty attitude. Control is the name of the game!!! On another note, I noticed that a certain website has become quite inspired (ahem!) Im so off text messages anywayI cant stand them right now! It is usually that woman or man who is well-respected and admired in the communityand often that person who seems to have the perfect life and family. He is cheating on you and leaves you and he accuses YOU of fucking HIM over. This game is so unnecessary but I think you need to make him reach out to you at all times. They know about his affair as I texted my MIL. After a few days off, Im in a strange new world. Screw him. To that I will be damned before I allow you to gauge my depth. Thanks too for the additional info from your experience.

Hed learned his lesson and I mine.

Sometimes I wondered if Id be happier if she didnt come home. Thats the first gauntlet. And LOL this was before I even knew what NC was or of its power. Quite a few women get cold feet on their way to the altar. today I am panicking because tonight we are meeting two other couples for dinner. But there is going to be an end to the pain just not as soon as we want it. And rather than look in the mirror and take responsibility for what he has done he deflects and blames and denies his choices and A. Pretty sure from everything I read everywhere that no one is happy with the family law system regardless of what country you are in. Now the story is that M was bad so of course implicitly H was justified. It is different from a MLC affair since the wayward spouse in the runaway spouse syndrome scenario had checked out a long time ago, had been finished with the marriage a long time ago, and often already has a home to move into with the other person. Im looking forward to him finding out how hard it really is when you dont have a loving W in the corner doing everything for you to run your life and your business etc. God I hope not. Hes fine. Well, I am leaving with the captain of that steamboat, my lover, to find my fortune. I do remember it well. And it seems everyone has offered him help and love and support. Overall good, possibly life saving. Youre doing lots of stuff correctly. Dont be silly, its all good, no one has turned against you.. Explanations for this behavior include reasons such as (a) an intrinsic fear of not being able to follow through on any serious undertaking, (b) a phobia about long-term commitment, and (c) a lack of genuine love for the partner. I guess b/c they just dont want to. It meant something to me as well.took me months to get over it and fall asleep beside him. And no nothing about this is your fault. But then, at the end, my intensity (his word) around the fact that he has not made any actual efforts to SHOW me remorse was the sticking point ????. Very similarly my H became someone I fid not recognize during the A. Same a bit as what TFW says: it was the no $ after alimony and child support that seemed to change things (excluding the child support). I only got red flags when I was around her at the office. Or even seeing if you were sincere about R. She even may or may not have done it at your h request. I think it will help. I have three university degrees, so Im no slouch in the make-it-happen department. I took a sleeping pill last night but it only got me 4 and a half hours. BED = Blame / Excuses / Denial > below the line thinking. And its hard to do when your heart is screaming NO. Google 180. I studied law at university so while Im not a lawyer I am across some of the things that can occur. So, now I am circling back to the topic of runaway spouses. I said to him that since I had endured the ultimate disrespect from him, he now, out of actual respect for me going forward, needs to once and for all end it with this third party, since he has repeatedly said they are not together and she is not coming here nor is he going there (separate countries remember?) It was making himself into the suffering victim and appropriating my abandonment. We were also that couple. Hes going to be fine. But the OW explains the personality change too. For the past 6 weeks or so half the time my husband is clearly at the age of 12. Before that night I was doing all the kindness and loving and compassion. Grieving and dealing with pain and isdues takes courage and strength. But it was only after he first found out that he would not get what he assumed that he started even talking with me again, and then of course the MC suggestion that was retracted etc. Too high an expectation from a trip I guess.