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comments: There was no response but additional radio communications were overheard as the flight leader, FT-28, asked the other aircraft in Flight 19 for ideas. The disappearance began the modern myth of the Bermuda Triangle. ), FT-28 (to his flight): Change course to 090 degrees for 10 minutes. (Ed.
But soon, the story of Ernest Lundeen colluding with a hostile foreign power, the involvement of a sitting member of Congress in what would soon be charged in court as a wide-ranging, seditious conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government, that story would play out in ways that nobody would expect. They're both trying to figure out how much reporters have found out about what's going on. Between when the article came out and the plane crash, Lundeen's papers show he received a letter from the German agent telling him to not worry about the press being onto them. They let him out of the cold car. Our Senior Executive Producers are Cory Gnazzo and Laura Conaway. Now the expos did not mention Senator Lundeen by name, but the newspaper's description of the scheme, it was spot-on when it came to describing the nature of that relationship, the nature of the activities that Lundeen was up to with that German agent. Its complement of five Grumman Avenger bombers, crewed by fourteen airmen, were lost at sea on 5 December 1945 after losing their bearings. In any case, he was told that no replacement was available. Flight 19s radio transmissions soon became increasingly faint as it meandered out to sea. It's absolutely an incredible artifact. And Senator Lundeen knew it. Flight 19 was a United States Navy training mission that disappeared in 1945 within the Bermuda Triangle, forming one of the central parts in the Bermuda Triangle mythology.
WebAt approx 1600, radio messages THOMPSON, HOWELL O SGT, USMCR-A MISSING A that led us to believe flight was lost in vicinity of PAONESSA, GEORGE R SGT, USMCR-A MISSING A Bahama Islands. comments: apparently, the pilot is very confused at this point because there was almost no way given the flight times and speeds that he could have been over the Gulf of Mexico, yet that is what he assumed a heading of 030, in other words northeast, had the flight flying away from land and toward the open ocean.). Senator Ernest Lundeen reported killed today in the crash of a Pennsylvania Central Airlines plane, was the second member of the United States Senate to die in an airplane crash. The winds would have blown them further east, away from land, while the currents of Gulf Stream would have carried them northeast and out into the central Atlantic. The train crew heard him yelling about 20 miles down the tracks. I (part I), Building the Navy's Bases, vol. 294 (1917) Identification Tags ("Dog Tags"), General Order No. Flannery: I think that the coincidence defies the probabilities, Lundeen: Reason? When Senator Lundeen boarded that doomed Pennsylvania Central Airlines plane in August 1940, remember that his final destination was back home in Minnesota, where he was slated to deliver a speech on Labor Day weekend. Results negative. 47, USS Enterprise CV6 War History 1941 - 1945, USS Franklin CV-13 War Damage Report No. The messages were overheard by the senior flight instructor at Ft. Lauderdale, Fox Tare Seventy-Four (FT-74), who contacted the flight from his aircraft. But what she finds there leaves no room for hope. Lundeen doesn't do any of these things. comments: This almost certainly puts him at the northern edge of the Bahamas), FT-28: Can you have Miami or someone turn on their radar gear and pick us up? He wanted to search for the Squadron at this point, but was told not to, by NASFL officials who Everything points to something far more menacing everyday human factors. There is no plaque, there is no marker designating it as the site of a deadly plane crash. Training Dept has been directed to intensify training in lost plane CAUSE M-1 POOR NAVIGATION procedure & stress with all pilots the necessity ANAYLISIS Z POOR NAVIGATION for carrying our correct procedure when lost.
He wanted to search for the Squadron at this point, but was told not to, by NASFL officials who Most immediately, in Washington, there was shock and grief from Senator Lundeens colleagues in the capital. A/S/ Rescue Unit 4 alerted all stations & everything possible was done to get this flight back safely. When Lundeens secretary raced to the scene of the crash that afternoon to learn the fate of her boss, one report from the time says she met a policeman at the scene of the crash who told her something strange. Efforts were made to contact flight by radio & direct to fly course of 270 degrees or into sun. Intensive search was carried out starting at daybreak 6 DEC 1945 and A/C MODEL & NO PARACHUTE securing at 1527 10 DEC 1945. Efforts were made immediately to contact flight by radio & direct to fly course of 270 degrees or into sun. Perhaps most intriguing, though, was something that was found in the passenger manifest from the flight. That letter from the German agent he was working with, it apparently did not ease the concerns of Senator Lundeen. By Thomas Van Hare. Dateline Washington. Violence against government targets. And they didn't just run him out of Congress, they ran him out of town on a rail. 2 Appendix, Main Navy Building: Its Construction and Original Occupants, Manual of Information Concerning Employments for the Panama Canal Service, Master File Drawings of German Naval Vessels, Matthew Fontaine Maury: Benefactor of Mankind, Mers-el-Kebir Port Instructions for Merchant Vessels [1942], Midway in Retrospect: The Still Under Appreciated Victory, Midways Operational Lesson: The Need For More Carriers, Military Service Records and Unit Histories, Miscellaneous Actions in the South Pacific, More Bang for the Buck: U.S. Nuclear Strategy and Missile Development 1945-1965, Naming of Streets, Facilities and Areas On Naval Installations, Narrative of Captain W.S. FT-28: I cannot switch frequencies. comments: winds at altitude were about 30 to 35 knots from the west, in other words, the winds were pushing the planes out into the open Atlantic east of the Bahamas.). 
Because 24 congressmen are mentioned in this report that I prepared. Lieutenant C. C. Taylor, USNR - Leader of flight. But the Senator did have reason to be concerned while he was on the plane that day. The four student pilots had compiled approximately 60 IE 11 is not supported. And that was in part, because it would not end up being just Senator Ernest Lundeen who was caught up in it.
The Influenza Epidemic of 1918 by Carla R. Morrisey, RN, BSN, Influenza of 1918 (Spanish Flu) and the US Navy, Philadelphia, Nurses, and the Spanish Influenza Pandemic of 1918. The Riddle of Flight 19 The 1945 disappearance of five fighter planes in the Bermuda Triangle was real, but hardly how it's portrayed. Do some more research. Maddow: In his first stint in Washington, Lundeen had opposed the U.S. getting involved in World War I. CAPT, USMC VTB-1 UNLIMITED 8 W 8 UNIT AIRCRAFT ASSIGNED WEATHER @ ACCIDENT INSRUMENT INSTRUMENT TYPE CLEARANCE VTB-1, NAS FT LAUDERDALE HOURS HOURS CONTACT TOTAL HOURS TOTAL HRS THIS MODEL TOTAL HRS LAST 3 MONTHS HRS THIS MODEL LAST 3 MONTHS TIME IN FLIGHT MANEUVER OR ALT OF MANEUVER ANGLE OF IMPACT, STOP DIST, EST SPEED 344.9 62.2 69.2 62.2 Approx. WebFlight 19 On December 5, 1945 five pilots and nine airmen disappeared off the coast of Florida. I will fly south and meet you. (Ed. Had he been drinking? Training Dept has been directed to intensify training in lost plane CAUSE M-1 POOR NAVIGATION procedure & stress with all pilots necessity of ANAYLISIS Z POOR NAVIGATION carrying out correct procedure when lost. For 14 minutes, there was no word from FT-28. No other communications were heard from Flight 19. DAMAGE DAMAGE DESCRIPTION & REMARKS Fact finding board of investigation has been appointed AIRCRAFT A/C & ENGIN LOST AT SEA by CNAADTRA to make detailed report on & if possible ENGINES determine cause of loss of subj a/c. You can see it in Ernest Lundeens archives at Stanford University. They drive to the airfield for him to catch his flight. It was a terrible loss, but one with a clear explanation.
372 (1889) Order for Official Communications, General Order No. 132 (1915) Khaki Dye for White Undress Uniform, General Order No. That one term he served in Congress back in 1917, it was a political disaster. 47 (1935) Precedence of Forces in Parades, General Orders for the Regulation of the Navy Yard Washington, D.C. - 1833-1850, German Commanders Wilhelm Keitel and Alfred Jodl on the Invasion of Normandy in 1944, German Report on the Allied Invasion of Normandy, German Submarine Activities on the Atlantic Coast, Glossary of U.S. Taylor was a seasoned naval aviator with some 2,500 flying hours and multiple World War II combat tours in the Pacific. Actually, it was flyable, but windy with rough seas. After that, at a timed turn point, they would veer north for about 70 miles and then turn southwest back to Ft. Lauderdale. The conspiracy theorists, however, cannot compete with the stark truth that exists based on the evidence at hand. Taylor was a seasoned naval aviator with some 2,500 flying hours and multiple World War II combat tours in the Pacific. Maddow: Lundeens speech that he planned to give on Labor Day 1940, it extolled the great contributions of German culture to American life. It means they know something they don't want us to know. By morning, they probably never saw one another again. He had about 2,500 hours total time, but he was new to the command, even if he had previously been based in Miami and flown over the Florida Keys. 1 to be exact. 1 to be exact. by Brian Dunning Filed under History & Pseudohistory, Paranormal Skeptoid Podcast #417 June 3, 2014 Podcast transcript | Subscribe Listen: Just a few months after he lost his seat in Congress. Admiral William B. Caperton of the 1918 Influenza on Armored Cruiser No. WebSwoop on down to pluck the young blood of Flight 19. GEN NATURE E-2 RECOMMENDATIONS: Added emphasis is being placed on SPEC TYPE ACC (6) LOST-FUEL EXHAUSTION importance of proper navigation & lost plane procedure. A few years ago, he decided he would interview some of the last living eye-witnesses, people who were actually there that day in 1940 when the disaster happened. 259 (1917) Executive Order and Message on Death of Admiral Dewey, General Order No. When she hears the news, Senator Lundeen's secretary decides shes gonna go there, to try to find him.
Hart: The archival records suggests that possibly some, if not pro-Hitler, sort of pro-peacemaking with Nazi Germany type content. We were out on a navigation hop and on the second leg I thought they were going wrong, so I took over and was flying them back to the right position. 5 - Decorations Awarded By Foreign Governments, Pt. That one, we think we know. Painter: We walked through this cornfield and parts of bodies was strung along the cornstalks, and everything like that. I must keep my planes intact. (Ed. Our Web Producer is Will Femia. 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It was mid-afternoon on December 5, 1945, just five months after the end of World War II, when a routine training mission of five aircraft took off and headed east from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, for navigation training. 74 (1908) Establishing Ship Post Offices, General Order No. 152-41, Perspectives on Enhanced Interrogation Techniques, Philadelphia Experiment: ONR Information Sheet, The Pioneers - A Monograph on the First Two Black Chaplains in the Chaplains Corps of the United States Navy, Plea in Favor of Maintaining Flogging in the Navy, Pocket Guide to New Guinea and the Solomons, Posse Comitatus Act and Related Matters: A Sketch, Post Mortem CIC [Combat Information Center] Notes, Radio Intelligence Appreciations Concerning German U-Boat Activity in the Far East, Ready Seapower: A History of the US Seventh Fleet by Edward J. Marolda [pdf]. The really important thing to know about that speech is who wrote it. ), FT-28: I know where I am now. As weird and mysterious as his death in an inexplicable plane crash would prove to be, his last two weeks before the crash were fraught with anxiety, even panic. So it's not, it's not very useful. An intensive search was carried out starting daybreak 6 DEC 1945 & securing 1527 A/C MODEL & NO PARACHUTE 10 DEC 1945. Steven J. Ross: They dont call themselves right-wing fanatics. The flight probably even came fairly near the coast, though it was still not able to see the beach. If these directions had been heard or carried out we are certain this flight would have returned to base safely. Some of the passengers were locked in a struggle of some kind. It didnt mention anything about the Bermuda Triangle, that is a big mistake!! Mayday. 123 (1869) Uniform Change for Masters, Ensigns & Midshipmen, General Order No. There have been relatively recent reports that the FBI's investigation of the crash technically remains an open case. The rest of the transmissions were heard by ASRTU-4. Im sure they dropped them, the only question is where. Pennsylvania Central Airlines had never had a crash in its entire history as an airline. Your email address will not be published. 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At the time, the ship radioed: At 1950, observed a burst of flames, apparently an explosion, leaping flames 100 feet high and burning for ten minutes. Hart: Ernest Lundeen is, I think, one of the more fascinating figures in this period. You can find much more about this series you can even see the copy of Senator Lundeen's Nazi speech that survived the plane crash at our website: MSNBC.com/ultra. The logbook of USS Solomons, the carrier which saw Training 49 disappear off radar, is also available. 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Heres the lede: "If Federal authorities probe deep-enough into the crash of the Pennsylvania Central Airlines plane which carried Senator Lundeen to his death in Virginia, they may find some highly interesting facts regarding Nazi activities in the United States. Maddow: In the wake of the Trip 19 plane crash, the Justice Department said there was nothing to see here. No one was under investigation, it was all just a coincidence. 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In fact, the senator's secretary herself had reportedly witnessed something along those same lines. Maddow: So, the Senator seems to have been in a near-panic about being exposed in the days leading up to him stepping on board that flight a flight in which he, quite literally, was carrying a speech that was written for him by a Nazi agent who had just been exposed in the press. Where was he? As a, as a recovering federal prosecutor you would throw somebody out of your office if they came in and they said, This is our finding. Really? When she dropped her boss at the airfield for the flight, the Senator's secretary according to some accounts had noticed through the open doorway of the plane that something was happening between the passengers.